David Lubar ([info]davidlubar) wrote,
@ 2007-04-25 08:07:00
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Anon no mas
Bear with me, my friends, for I am about to present a tale of deception, detection, and revelation. It begins mundanely enough. I met a librarian at a conference in 2005. He’d given one of my books a good review, and he seemed nice. But when I saw him again in 2006, he acted cold and surly, as if I'd offended or annoyed him. I had no clue what was wrong. Hoping it was just my imagination, I emailed him several times on various issues to see if I could elicit a friendly response. I can’t recall whether he didn’t respond at all, or responded coldly. Either way, I knew he had some sort of problem with me.

When I learned that he was reviewing True Talents for VOYA, I got a sinking feeling in my gut. Sure enough, the review was far from glowing. (Stick with me – this is not a whining post about a bad review. More is going on here than meets the eye.) Some of the phrases he used struck me as strangely familiar. I went back and checked the only other negative review of True Talents. The two reviews shared an amazing number of phrases. For those of you interested in literary forensics, I present exhibit A:

Kirkus: Eddie Thalmayer, aka Trash, awakens in a locked room, groggy from being overmedicated.
VOYA: Eddie Thalmayer, aka Trash, finds himself in a locked room, groggy and hallucinating from being overmedicated.

Kirkus: Trash sends out a telepathic message for his buddies to rendezvous in Philadelphia
VOYA: Eddie sends out a telepathic message for the guys to rendezvous in Philadelphia

Kirkus: Bowdler, a sadistic adult who seemingly works for the government
VOYA: Bowdler, a sadistic man who might be a government rogue agent

Kirkus: Trash is one of the special power teens from Hidden Talents's Edgeview Alternative School
VOYA: Eddie is one of the special powers teens from Lubar's previous novel, Hidden Talents

Kirkus: Torchie, Cheater, Flinch, Lucky and Martin round out the group
VOYA: Five boys-Torchie, Cheater, Flinch, Lucky, and Martin-are the other students
(The boys are listed in the same order. The odds against this are 120 to 1.)

Kirkus: the teens turn the tables on a deranged adult
VOYA: scheming to turn the tables on Bowdler.

The same person had written both reviews. Or, more accurately, he'd written pretty much the same review twice. (At the very least, VOYA should ask for half their money back.) As I was pondering that, and feeling it was unfair to have to live in a universe where someone could trash you twice, I heard a giant “click” in my brain. Everything went full circle. The discovery of the reused review solved the initial mystery: Why was this guy angry with me? Early last year, I’d posted and circulated a scathing attack on Kirkus and their anonymous reviewers. Bingo – as they say. I hadn’t realized he wrote for Kirkus. Maybe that was why he acted so cold. Maybe he was even the author of the earlier review whose grammar I’d mocked in that post. So, perhaps a mystery is solved.

Can I prove he has a grudge? No. There’s no way to do that. But I know he gave the book a 3Q 3P rating, which, if you are familiar with VOYA’s 1-5 rating system, is absurd. (Hidden Talents got a 5Q 4P, and most reviewers feel True Talents is a better book.) And let’s take a look at one part of the review: “The boys are fifteen but repeatedly carry out juvenile behaviors rather than maturing throughout the story.” Putting aside the quibble that Eddie is 14, the story takes place in a span of less than one week. How much maturing does he expect? No examples of this immature behavior are given. I know that the characters do some amazingly mature things, exhibiting courage and resourcefulness. So this seems pretty much like nothing more than a cheap shot from someone groping for a flaw to attack. (On top of all that, the phrase “carry out juvenile behaviors” is ungrammatical. You don’t carry out behaviors. But I digress.)

The other twice-told criticisms are equally bogus. Ironically, three of them -- the book doesn’t stand alone, there’s not enough action, and the humor is forced -- are all destroyed in a single sentence from the latest review to get posted. This, which I posted here just the other day, is from Genrefluent: “This thriller, a stand alone sequel to Hidden Talents will entice both avid readers and reluctant readers with its fast paced action and clever humor. “ Well said, Ms. Herald.

If you’ve read this far, you might wonder why I don’t just shrug it off, and not risk annoying even more people, including all of this guy’s friends. I’d be smart to let it go. I’ve received tons of great reviews. And, in truth, the combined circulation and influence of VOYA and Kirkus is pretty small. But that’s not the issue. I wanted to speak up for several reasons. First, I feel wonderfully smug that I figured out who wrote the anonymous review. It’s nice to know the name of the person who felt True Talents had “forced humor” and who felt compelled to trivialize the bad guy by comparing him to the principal in Ferris Bueller. If nothing else, we have proof here that anonymity definitely inspires people to be nastier than when they append their name to a review. Hey, R. W., how does the sunlight feel?

Second, as I mentioned, I don’t think it’s fair that a person can take two shots at a book, especially if one of the reviews is anonymous. Third, this could result in far more than two cheap shots. This librarian is often on award committees, so he’ll have plenty of chances to try to do more damage. He was on Quick Picks last year, and he’s on Best Books this year. If he didn’t have a grudge before, I’m pretty sure he’ll have one now. I'd like to hope that any future attacks he makes against my works will be taken with a grain of salt by other committee members. In the long run, I guess I really shouldn’t care what he did or what he might do. My book is a whole lot more enjoyable, and honest, than his review. And it’s not a rehash of something else I wrote.


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[info]lkmadigan
2007-04-25 01:33 pm UTC (link)
Eye-opening.

And depressing.

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[info]tamarak
2007-04-25 01:46 pm UTC (link)
Scandalous!

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[info]rusalkatrix
2007-04-25 01:54 pm UTC (link)
Second, as I mentioned, I don’t think it’s fair that a person can take two shots at a book, especially if one of the reviews is anonymous.

It would be different if the reviewer had a split personality and wrote one postive & one negative review; that would be interesting at least.

On the bright side, I really enjoy your reviews of reviews. Nice detective work. ^.~

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[info]barboconnor
2007-04-25 02:59 pm UTC (link)
That's just mind boggling to me, David! Maybe we're all naive - but to have the same reviewer/same book for two fairly major review journals just seems unethical to me. At the very least, it's certainly unfair to the author.

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[info]artistq
2007-04-25 05:07 pm UTC (link)
I agree, seems like very bad form.

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[info]alicornmoon
2007-04-25 05:39 pm UTC (link)
I guess there are bullies everywhere :P

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[info]davidlubar
2007-04-26 10:45 am UTC (link)
You're right. Sometimes, I think there are more bullies in the academic/scholarly world than on the playground. At least both kinds back down when you stand up to them.

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[info]aprilhenry
2007-04-25 07:12 pm UTC (link)
Wow! The only comprable story I have is that the EXACT same review for Shock Point showed up on both PW and Library Journal - but one was online only, and I no longer have access, so maybe I was hallucinating.

I feel kind of out of it. I've never been to anything but a mystery conference, and other than librarians at my kid's school and our local library, I don't even know any librarians by sight. I'm not even sure how to go about rememdying this.

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[info]davidlubar
2007-04-26 10:52 am UTC (link)
State conferences are a great place to start. In NJ, for example, at the New Jersey Association of School Librairans conference, they have an Author's Alley where writers and illustrators can sit, schmooze, and sign books. Most states have several organizations that have conferences. (E.g., librarians, reading teachers, school librarians, English teachers.)

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Yikes
[info]stacy_dekeyser
2007-04-25 07:50 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe that either Kirkus or VOYA would allow or tolerate anyone reviewing for another journal as well. It's not just the issue of paying a reviewer for a rehash, but what's the point? What reason do people have to read your reviews if they can read the same thing somewhere else for only one subscription fee? It makes me wonder if either publication is even aware of it. (But if not, they will be soon!)

David, on a personal note I'm sorry this has happened to your book, but most other authors wouldn't have noticed and/or not bothered to bring it to light.

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Re: Yikes
[info]davidlubar
2007-04-26 01:08 am UTC (link)
I'm fearless. When I had my prostate removed, I asked the surgeon to also take out my inner censor and my sense of caution.

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Re: Yikes
[info]cedarlibrarian
2007-04-26 01:20 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe that either Kirkus or VOYA would allow or tolerate anyone reviewing for another journal as well.

Kirkus, VOYA, SLJ, and Booklist all tolerate it. I think KLIATT does, too. PW, afaik, doesn't have their reviews written by librarians. But I review for multiple professional journals, and so do many people I know in a professional capacity.

David, I have a longer, individual comment coming.

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[info]kellyrfineman
2007-04-25 08:00 pm UTC (link)
Interesting. I'd have thought that VOYA and Kirkus would use different reviewers (period), and particularly different reviewers for the same book. From his perspective, this guy got paid twice for the same work. Or else he plagiarized someone else in a very big way. My vote is in the former camp. But I'd hope that the folks in charge of both publications would look askance at this sort of practice.

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From a nonymous reviewer
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Note, that's "nonymous" as opposed to "anonymous."

I review science books for newspapers, and multiple sales are essential for the income to match the effort.

But they all carry my byline so there's no mistaking that the same person wrote them.

I can be critical or praising, but because I have a paper trail, so to speak, the readers can judge what influences my reviews. They have every right to consider the source, and by putting my name on the review, they know that I am willing to stand behind what I have to say.

Here's a link to one of my most negative reviews (http://www.scienceshelf.com/GenderedAtom.htm). I would have no qualms about meeting the author personally because I didn't make it personal. I focused on why the book does not work for someone like me even though I was a part of its intended audience.

Fred Bortz, nonymous as ever

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anonymous reviews
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 09:48 pm UTC (link)
David, you are in more trouble than you think.
People purchasing for libraries depend on Kirkus to give them a heads-up about good new books. True, a good review at Kirkus will not insure you are bought, but they'll take note.

Secondly, Voya is very, very important in the library world. Considering that a book must have THREE good reviews before being purchased by a library, what's left to tout your book?

You'll need good reviews in School Library Journal AND Booklist, plus one other library review media. If not VOYA? then what? (not being a Material Selector, I'm not up on the new databases they use to supplement their reviews.)

So sorry about the review problems. But keep in mind that a negative review from Kirkus usually means nothing to librarians. We know that media is untrustworthy. (so cancel that negative review -- which leaves you with just ONE important review media that is anti-David Lubar. Unfortunate that it is the same person.)

On the other hand, do you know that people can make a living being professional reviewers? Which may explain why he is reviewing for more than one review source. AND he may be reviewing for more than two or three. Watch it.

-librarian, writer, mom

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Re: anonymous reviews
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 10:06 pm UTC (link)
In my district, we purchase what we feel we need/want. I never had to show my orders to anyone. In eight years, my combined budget was about $125,000. I didn't read Kirkus regularly but read everything else. Yes, reviews count, BUT, since I've never picked up a book of yours I didn't like, the review wouldn't stop me. Some authors are an automatic purchase and yuou sure do have your fans! I'm sorry this happened to you. A bum deal.

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Re: anonymous reviews
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 10:25 pm UTC (link)
oops...I wasn't signed in.

Lisa Mullarkey

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Re: anonymous reviews
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 10:26 pm UTC (link)
Oops again...mine was only the post mentioning the budget. Sorry for the confussion.

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Re: anonymous reviews
[info]davidlubar
2007-04-26 01:11 am UTC (link)
Thanks, Lisa. I appreciate it.

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Re: anonymous reviews
[info]davidlubar
2007-04-26 01:10 am UTC (link)
I don't think I'm in trouble. I got great reviews in School Library Journal, Book List, and Kliatt. I also got a great review from Orson Scott Card and from Book Sense. I'm not in trouble. This lame-ass revierwer is.

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Re: anonymous reviews
[info]cdaisym
2007-04-27 09:07 pm UTC (link)
And not all libraries follow the "three reviews" rule. I purchase what I think my collection needs, what my patrons want and what looks good from reviews (even if it's just one).

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[info]dlgarfinkle
2007-04-25 09:53 pm UTC (link)
Have you contacted Kirkus and VOYA about this? It seems that it was either reviewed twice by the same person, or the second reviewer copied the first reviewer. I doubt either journal would allow this.

Don't you wish you could just write books, and not deal with all the other stuff? Sigh.

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[info]davidlubar
2007-04-26 01:12 am UTC (link)
"Don't you wish you could just write books, and not deal with all the other stuff? Sigh."

Amen, sister.

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Printz
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 09:56 pm UTC (link)
David,

I shouldn't worry about him being on the Best Books committee.
The true/ complete name of that committee is Best Books for Young Adults, also known as BBYA. And it's mission is to find ADULT books of interest to Young Adults. plus some YA books

However, let's hope that your publisher submitted it to the PRINTZ award committee. That's the top prize for the YALSA group. Once your book is one of the PRINTZ honor books, the BBYA committee is required to put it on their list. Wouldn't that be a surprise to this reviewer!

-librarian, writer, mom

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Re: Printz
[info]cedarlibrarian
2007-04-26 01:25 pm UTC (link)
And it's mission is to find ADULT books of interest to Young Adults.

Really? I don't think so. I counted last year's BBYA list and of the books I recognized, only one was adult (Black Swan Green; The Book Thief doesn't count because it was published as YA in the United States, and BBYA doesn't take into account how the book is marketed in other countries, same as the Printz). Perhaps you're thinking of the Alex Awards? Those awards are definitely given to adult books of interest to young adults; that's the charge given to the awards committee.

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Re: Printz
[info]alixwrites
2007-04-26 07:49 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, that comment was a bump for me as well. I attended NCTE years ago where Patty Campbell, one of my personal heroines, gave a big speech about her librarianship (accepting an award), including how she worked to have YA books make up the BBYA list. It was originally supposed to be what the poster said, but it's been YA for a long time. BBYA is probably the much more relevant list for mainstream YA authors (though I am personally quite attached to the teen-selected IRA YA Choices list as well).

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Re: Printz
(Anonymous)
2007-04-26 01:53 pm UTC (link)
David,

Let all of us who write YA books, fiction or nonfiction, join in a fervent chorus:

"Someday my Printz will come!"

Fred Bortz
(http://www.fredbortz.com/booksby.htm)

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[info]amomandagirl
2007-04-26 04:04 am UTC (link)
What's especially odd about this is that VOYA reviewers are not paid. (Unless that has changed since I reviewed for them, and please correct me if I'm wrong.) Why would a paid reviewer also work as a volunteer reviewer?

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[info]davidlubar
2007-04-26 09:24 am UTC (link)
"Why would a paid reviewer also work as a volunteer reviewer?"

Good question. Maybe for the exposure and bragging rights.

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[info]cedarlibrarian
2007-04-26 01:25 pm UTC (link)
It's actually for the free books, and because it looks hella good on a resume.

*works as both a paid reviewer and a volunteer*

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[info]sarah_mae13
2007-04-26 05:10 am UTC (link)
even though I don't "know" the reviewer, I do know the name and as soon as I saw the initials...

Anyway, at least you know who it is and knowing is half the battle :-)

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[info]cedarlibrarian
2007-04-26 04:00 pm UTC (link)
And, in truth, the combined circulation and influence of VOYA and Kirkus is pretty small.

Well, um, that depends on who you're talking to.

Personally, I'd rather read Kirkus and VOYA than Booklist any day. Why? Because I need to know not just what to buy, but what NOT to buy. I love that VOYA reviews for both quality and popularity, both of which are big factors in whether a librarian is going to buy a book. I can't speak for booksellers, but I do know that us librarians here in Jersey are pretty loyal VOYA readers. I know if I read a review in Booklist or Horn Book, that the book has already been vetted and deemed worth buying by the Booklist staff. I like Kirkus, too. Anonymity in a review doesn't bother me, because it's not up to me to please writers or reviewers. I have to please my patrons first and foremost. VOYA, Kirkus, SLJ, and Booklist require that you be a librarian to review (despite what a certain author whose first name starts with P tried to tell me, that is, reviewers are actually nothing more than failed, embittered writers), and I like to see what my colleagues have to say about books.

Reviews, and I say this as a reviewer, too, are always a crapshoot. A review is always nothing more than one person's opinion. That's why books get mixed reviews. I know I do my best to point out parts of the book that make me say what I do in my review, but when you only have 185 words to do it (although VOYA gives you a generous 250), the success rate does, um, vary.

(That, of course, doesn't make the "they don't mature" criticism any less silly. Besides the one-week time span of the book, who says that characters always have to mature? They sure as hell don't in Stephenie Meyer's books, which both got completely ridiculous 5Qs in VOYA.)

As for reviewing a book for two different publications, personally I don't do it. It's too weird, and I fear repeating myself. I have done it once, but that was because my editor from the second review source never answered my email when I asked if it was okay to review a book I'd already reviewed elsewhere. I ended up styling my reviews differently, because the review sources were geared for two very different audiences. I can see where others, though, might view it as simply less work they have to do.

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[info]davidlubar
2007-04-26 04:47 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for posting. Since you're our resident expert in these matters, I was hoping you'd share your thoughts. Of course, now you've got me trying to think of all the authors whose names start with a "P."

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[info]lizzb
2007-04-26 09:16 pm UTC (link)
Re the similarity of the two reviews: Putting on my lawyer hat, I'm surprised that the review journals allow that, and it makes me very curious to see not only those journals review policies, but anything in writing between the journal and the reviewer regarding original work and copyright. (Yes I am in full geek mode.)

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reviews
[info]professornana
2007-04-26 10:06 pm UTC (link)
OK, so I do reviews for more than one publication from time to time. VOYA is one of those review journals for which I write. (and it is NOT a paid gig, BTW). Mostly now I just blog about books so I can talk about books I like and not have to assign values of some kind.

I do think using the same or similar review in 2 different places is not right under any context, however.

On to the more salient point to be made here and someone has already pointed it out: a review is one person's take on a book. I once read a scathing review of a book I adored. I think that is when I started noticing the names attached to reviews. Some of the reviewers are dead on from my perspective. Others I read and shrug and think, oh well, they did not GET this book.

As for allowing anonymous reviews, WHY? If I want to be critical of a book, I should be able to place it on the line, sign the review, own up. Hence, I do not read Kirkus reviews. I stick with SLJ, Booklist, Horn Book, and VOYA. Of course, I am also partial to the reviews in the English and reading journals as well.

This is an interesting and thought provoking discussion. Thanks, David, for making us think and talk about reviews and reviewing.

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Re: reviews
[info]davidlubar
2007-04-27 11:37 am UTC (link)
I'm so glad our other resident expert stopped by. Thanks for joining the discussion. I definitely feel that writers and reviewers (as well as the consumers of reviews) need to talk more freely about the topic. Here's hoping we can toss around the fine points face to face. In a bar, or at a cocktail party, which is the proper venue for this sort of thing.

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and why not?
(Anonymous)
2007-04-29 04:50 pm UTC (link)
Finally--someone reviews a reviewer.

And why not? It is writing after all. And If published reviewers hope to sway where money is spent in libraries and by the book buying public, then why not call into question the legitimacy of a review in a review journal that one PAYS to subscribe to?

There are many reviews out there that are written with integrity, but there are many which surely are not. Sometimes, it really is personal.

While you might be smart to "let it go" in order to feel less angst, I think you said something that needed to be said. In fact, I think it should be said often, and loudly.

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Re: and why not?
[info]davidlubar
2007-04-30 01:04 pm UTC (link)
I've often toyed with the idea of setting up a web page where writers can respond to mistakes in reviews. I've heard some amazing stories.

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Re: and why not?
(Anonymous)
2007-05-01 05:14 am UTC (link)
Well he has a book coming out, so you can review something he has written. Be nice.

http://lu.com/showbook.cfm?isbn=9781591582700

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Re: and why not?
[info]davidlubar
2007-05-01 12:35 pm UTC (link)
Oooohhh -- you're good. Nice find. Which makes me curious as to who you are. Feel free to reveal your secret identity by email, if you wish.

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Or maybe, don't be nice...
(Anonymous)
2009-01-24 02:33 pm UTC (link)
Getting teens to read is surely a good thing, but the focus on specifically male teens -- well, that sets off my dubious bump!

dmh

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Re: Or maybe, don't be nice...
[info]davidlubar
2009-01-24 02:41 pm UTC (link)
And, according to one review, it is really focused on urban male teens, so it is pretty narrow (and expensive).

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[info]carriejones
2007-05-03 12:06 am UTC (link)
David, I don't know how I missed all of this last week. I have nothing brilliant to say other than, "Wow."

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